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		<title>Fixing the zoom:1; IE fix?</title>
		<link>http://www.electronet.com.au/2009/06/is-zoom1-the-answer-to-our-prayers/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much has been written about the "magical fix" that *{zoom:1; } has on IE6 and IE7. By using this to force hasLayout onto IE a lot of the display issues we are used to are fixed easily.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much has been <a title="Ben Nadel's Blog" href="http://www.bennadel.com/blog/1354-The-Power-Of-ZOOM-Fixing-CSS-Issues-In-Internet-Explorer.htm">written</a> about the &#8220;magical fix&#8221; that *{zoom:1; } has on IE6 and IE7. By using this to force hasLayout onto IE a lot of the display issues we are used to are fixed easily.</p>
<p>BUT.. as i&#8217;ve just discovered&#8230; it can also create some of its own problems.</p>
<p>I had an issue reffered to me where IE6 was rendering some text way out of alignment, it seemed like a float clearing problem but clearing didnt have any affect. So I removed the zoom declaration and and that removed the problem, but restored a bunch of other problems the initial zoom:1; had fixed.</p>
<p>So, I had to find a way to reset the zoom property and the answer is &#8220;normal&#8221;. I also has to use * to apply it to ALL items in that box.</p>
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		<title>Browser here Browser there.. Browser&#8217;s everywhere!</title>
		<link>http://www.electronet.com.au/2008/09/browser-here-browser-there-browsers-everywhere/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well its an exciting month for browsers what with Google entering the fray and Microsoft dropping IE8 Beta 2 to the public. Much has been written about both so I wont delve into it too much but to say I think its very exciting.&#160; Google&#39;s business is the web so its no shock they&#39;ve built [...]]]></description>
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Well its an exciting month for browsers what with <a href="https://www.google.com/chrome">Google entering the fray</a> and <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/beta/">Microsoft dropping IE8 Beta 2</a> to the public.
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<p>
Much has been written about both so I wont delve into it too much but to say I think its very exciting.&nbsp;
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<p>
Google&#39;s business is the web so its no shock they&#39;ve built a browser and that they seem to have done it well. The javascript engine is lightning fast and I havent found many layout problems. Whilst Mozilla have done a great job with Firefox I expect to see Chrome surpase it in browser stats within a few months and start to eat into IE&#39;s % also. Maybe it will also give MS another jolt towards a better browser.</p>
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		<title>Live Validation</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A very neat solution to javascript validation.. &#34;LiveValidation is a small open source javascript library for making client-side validation quick, easy, and powerful. It comprises of two main parts. Firstly, it provides developers with a rich set of core validation methods, which can also be used outside the context of forms. Secondly, it provides your [...]]]></description>
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A very neat solution to javascript validation..
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<p>
&quot;LiveValidation is a small open source javascript library for making<br />
client-side validation quick, easy, and powerful. It comprises of two<br />
main parts. Firstly, it provides developers with a rich set of core<br />
validation methods, which can also be used outside the context of<br />
forms. Secondly, it provides your visitors with real-time validation<br />
information as they fill out forms, helping them to get it right first<br />
time, making the forms easier, quicker and less daunting to complete&quot;
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<a href="http://www.livevalidation.com/ ">http://www.livevalidation.com/<br />
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		<title>Good form design</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forms dont always get the design time they probably deserve. Obviously a form needs to be familiar and easy to use but it shouldnt be imune from the design process.&#160; Smashing Mag have another great showcase article, this time it&#39;s forms! They&#39;ve collected some great examples of creative forms.]]></description>
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Forms dont always get the design time they probably deserve. Obviously a form needs to be familiar and easy to use but it shouldnt be imune from the design process.&nbsp;
</p>
<p>
<a href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/">Smashing Mag</a> have another great showcase article, this time it&#39;s forms! They&#39;ve collected some great <a href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/04/17/web-form-design-modern-solutions-and-creative-ideas/">examples of creative forms</a>.</p>
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		<title>Lite Box</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The way we implement photo galleries have change a lot since the V2 release of Lightbox. It was smooth and funky and DIDN&#39;T use pop-ups. The only draw back was it was kinda big in size. Lite Box to the rescue. If you dont need the full prototype library it comes in at only 30k. [...]]]></description>
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The way we implement photo galleries have change a lot since the V2 release of <a href="http://www.huddletogether.com/projects/lightbox2/">Lightbox</a>. It was smooth and funky and <strong>DIDN&#39;T</strong> use pop-ups. The only draw back was it was kinda big in size. <strong><a href="http://www.doknowevil.net/litebox/">Lite Box</a></strong> to the rescue. If you dont need the full <a href="http://www.prototypejs.org/">prototype library</a> it comes in at only 30k.
</p>
<p>
<a href="http://planetozh.com/projects/lightbox-clones/">Planetozh</a> has a good rundown of all the <a href="http://planetozh.com/projects/lightbox-clones/">lightbox clones</a>.</p>
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		<title>Cool AJAX Tools</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a great article over at Smashing Magazine that shows off some of the neat effects achievable with a healthy dose of javascript and CSS. Their older Ajax &#38; CSS and Photo Gallery articles are also still quite relevant. &#160;]]></description>
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There is a <a href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/04/15/60-more-ajax-and-javascript-solutions-for-professional-coding/">great article</a> over at <a href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/">Smashing Magazine</a><br />
that shows off some of the neat effects achievable with a<br />
healthy dose of javascript and CSS.
</p>
<p>
Their older <a href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/06/12/tooltips-scripts-ajax-javascript-css-dhtml/">Ajax &amp; CSS</a> and <a href="http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/05/18/30-best-solutions-for-image-galleries-slideshows-lightboxes/">Photo Gallery</a> articles are also still quite relevant. &nbsp;</p>
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		<title>IE8</title>
		<link>http://www.electronet.com.au/2008/04/ie8/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Todd Baker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Much has been written about the 8th version in the Internet Explorer line and whilst the *news is good, unfortunately there is no escaping IE6 and 7 in the foreseeable future. The IE dev team at Microsoft genuinely seem to want produce a good standards compliant browser but I suspect the big brass at Microsoft [...]]]></description>
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Much has <a href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype">been written</a> about the 8th version in the Internet Explorer line and whilst the *news is good, unfortunately there is <a href="http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2008/March/browser.php">no escaping IE6 and 7</a> in the foreseeable future.
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<p>
The <a href="http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=1&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.msdn.com%2Fie%2F&amp;ei=60n9R_KlJILepgS5o7nwCQ&amp;usg=AFQjCNExR1qCGchYwcbXf0ocw50gxs8Cgw&amp;sig2=cdM9UKpHVXjAP6NZvNdrUA">IE dev team</a><br />
at Microsoft genuinely seem to want produce a good standards compliant<br />
browser but I suspect the big brass at Microsoft are scared of breaking<br />
the long list of web applications that were built during *IE6&rsquo;s reign.
</p>
<p>
This was evident when Microsoft <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/01/21/compatibility-and-ie8.aspx">announced that IE8 would render websites with the IE7 engine by default</a><br />
and require a meta tag to force it into standards mode. This seemed<br />
like sound logic on the surface but it was short sighted and caused an <a href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/beyonddoctype">uproar amongst the web community</a>. Microsoft, to its credit, relented and now IE8 will <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2008/03/03/microsoft-s-interoperability-principles-and-ie8.aspx">render in all its standards compliant glory</a><br />
(I&rsquo;ll get to that in a minute) by default. Sure some old applications<br />
will break, but that&rsquo;s the price of progress. Any vendors who refuse to<br />
fix the issues can insert the appropriate meta tag and party like its<br />
1999!
</p>
<p>
<strong>One CSS to rule them all.</strong>
</p>
<p>
Don&rsquo;t get me wrong, IE6 was a great browser when it was launched almost 10 years ago, but the web has moved on and IE6&rsquo;s <a href="http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc351024%28VS.85%29.aspx">erraddic css support</a> and <a href="http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html">quirky bugs</a><br />
make&rsquo;s developing websites to support it difficult and costly. IE7 was<br />
a small step but it was really 6.5. Several of the bugs from IE6 remain<br />
and css support was only marginally improved.
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<p>
So the only question left to answer is how good IE8 ends up being.<br />
None of the current crop of browsers are perfect but we seem to be<br />
getting closer to the holy grail of one css for everyone devoid of<br />
nasty hacks. As I said earlier, it will be a while before it happens,<br />
but we seem to be on the right track.
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